Season 3, episode 3. Dave, Jim & special guest / old bandmate Jim Morris discuss stories, dreams, and connections between our previous shows about Fear and Moving. Also included is a vintage track–“Clinging to the Noose” (words by Jim Morris, music by Jim Esch)–from the band JOE’s first tape, circa early 1980’s. LISTEN NOW at ANCHOR.FM
Bonus content! Here are the lyrics to “Clinging to the Noose”
Clinging to the Noose
Our fathers loved us long before we ever came to be
the light of night too often seen by those we never see
Forgotten heroes of a world created by a dream
the question rising to us now, things could be what they seem
A reason sought for every truth that time allows to tell
the man who died will speak in signs of those who know too well
There are lips and tongues and those who speak them
where are the ships and the lungs and those who breathe them?
A stop sign planted in the ground has grown in memory
a door knob, key hole, match book, sign post, dawn of history
Protruding from the mouth of glory came to be machine
the lash of lust so loathed by none taught us to be marines
He talks in vague hoarse tones of one who fails to answer bells
and he walks on a sea shore made of glass, and he listens to the shells
There are maids and songs and those who sing them
where are the aids and the wrongs and those who wring them?
Our fathers loved us long before we never came to be
and now and then remember to our fathers instinct we cling.
In today’s offering, Jim and Dave discuss the topic of fear and meander all the way to Hamlet. Dave weaves in a musical theme, a tribute to a musical giant. Listener feedback welcomed! Enjoy. LISTEN NOW AT ANCHOR.FM
A conversation about the theme of “moving.” What do we learn about ourselves, about our relation to lived experience, when we move? Are we the same person on either side of the move? Dave and Jim swap stories about moves they’ve experienced over the years, along with some song interludes pertinent to the theme. LISTEN NOW AT ANCHOR.FM
header image by Michael Margulis
Listeners to our season 2 interview with writer Jill Benedict will be pleased to learn of a newly published story by her in the magazine Feels Blind Literary. Read it here >> https://www.feelsblindliterary.com/fiction-jillian-benedict . Congrats, Jill!
Dave interviews Phil Charron, an early student of Thom’s, only slightly later than Dave and Jim, revealing insights about Thom in his early teaching career. LISTEN NOW AT ANCHOR.FM
In her mid 20’s, Jill Benedict quit writing. When Covid crashed into our lives, she clawed her way back to the creative path. Jill reads two stories for today’s show. The first is about the shocking reawakening of the creative process. The second engages in a very honest way with that looming pivot point we all must face, turning 30. LISTEN NOW AT ANCHOR.FM You can follow Jill on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/writerwithoutacause/
Season 2, episode 5. Dave and Jim talk with musician / songwriter John Grecia, a student of Thom Williams, about their songwriting collaboration and the rediscovery of a cache of songs they wrote back in the day. We discover the revelatory power of music, how it can speak to our contemporary moment, spanning years and bridging lives. The show includes the following Grecia/Williams demos: She Danced, January, If Wishes Were Rain, Slide, and Miranda. LISTEN NOW at ANCHOR.FM
Jim and Dave have an extended conversation about dreams, meditation, atman, anatman, Narcissus, the conservation of energy, entropy, transcendence, metaphysics, and the meaning and non-meaning of life. LISTEN NOW AT ANCHOR.FM.
Dave interviews filmmaker, musician and New York Times best-selling author Jeff Alulis, a former student of Thom’s. Listen now at Anchor.fm.
Jim and Dave push against the boundaries of nothing into something, in a free wheeling conversation about music, streaming, Buddha statues, G men, Dads in wartime, new band discoveries, punk rock Sphinxes, and Dave’s plan for getting Brian Eno to sue us. Prepare for a wild scenic route into nothingness and beyond! LISTEN NOW at ANCHOR.FM